- Going up and back into the sea before Part III LeShip saves a second or so from shorter run distance and regaining controls faster (hard mode only). - Skull order tweak to get at least one skull on the right side of the inventory (shorter drag distance). - Demon pepper before book on Part IV LeShip for chili fish inventory proximity. scurvy island stuff item combinations: monocles mop promotion alaska pepper ## Abridged Notes *1* toughness *1* Domingo *2* softness *2* Catalina *3* dedication *3* Elizabeth *4* bluntness *4* Bello (**DO RE MI SOL** <- order in inventory) DO DO MI SOL FA FA RE *1* Shiver *1* the seven *1* cutlasses! *2* Plunder *2* the quivering *2* timbers! *3* Brandish *3* my blasphemous *3* bilges! 1. Spring sprung hard 2. Their last summer night 3. Those crisp fall 4. every ocean sunrise 5. His major voyage *1* Hagfish (wormy) *2* Toadfish (purple) *3* Slimehead (big, orange) *4* Bloater (flat, brown) *5* Lumpsucker (yellow) ## Detailed Route ### Prologue (esc esc ..) key (LR) key on door coin (LR) coin on vendor ### Part I lookout: 5 "I'm mounting my own..." poster (L) *1 toughness 1 Domingo* *2 softness 2 Catalina* *3 dedication 3 Elizabeth* *4 bluntness 4 Bello* Madison: 3 "Is it you I should talk to..." 3 (or any) 3 "I'm going to find The Secret..." 3 (or any) 2 (or 1) 3 "If you don't take this..." Iron Rose: 1 "Absolutely, I'd love to..." 1 (or any) Elaine: 3 "You won't believe..." 2 "I have to get going..." plaque (L) voodoo lady: 3 "I'm planning to get..." frog (LR) knife (LR) Wally: 5 "Bye" monocle (LR) leave and come back, monocle (R) (esc) when entering High Street monocle on monocle (.) Carla: 1 "Anything but your cooking!" 1 "You should..." 2 "I've got my own..." 2 "We have unfinished..." 4 "I should let you..." pen on frog: 3 4 ? ? 3 *1 toughness 1 Domingo* *2 softness 2 Catalina* *3 dedication 3 Elizabeth* *4 bluntness 4 Bello* stuffed animal (LL) borrow any other book (LR) return book borrow again (R) borrow cookbook (R) cracker mix (R) monocles on serial # mop (R) cook: 5 "Nope, Im good." cookbook on cook door (L) knife on mop splinter on Wally look at map serial # on Locke Smith cracker mix on Locke Smith crackers on parrot key on case eyepatch (L) (esc) when leaving knife on plant knife on tree (esc) (.) when leaving eyepatch on voodoo lady plant sample on voodoo lady (esc) stuffed animal on mop handle use eyepatch (R) mop on Iron Rose (esc esc) ### Part II Gullet: 5 "What am I supposed to be doing, exactly?" bucket (L) grease (L) screw x3 (L) floor (L) bucket (L) knife on screw x3 bucket (L) floor (L) window (L) grease (L), window (L) x2 bucket (L) window (R) kid: 4 "Okay, I think I got it." LeChuck: 3 "Do you ever go to swabbie..." 5 "Nope." let Gullet throw you back into the hold Murray: 4 "I'm in disguise." pick up Murray (L . L) laundry machine (L) screws on laundry machine Murray on laundry machine Murray on cauldron knife on smouldering wood look through spyglass (L, ->) Flambe: (esc) 3 "I've got an idea!" LeChuck: 5 "Swabbie is fine." LeChuck: 4 "Nothing, never mind." report on ghost rats pamphlet (LR, esc) exit through porthole (R) report on Gullet knife (LR) report on porthole report on boxes report on stain report on Iron Rose Iron Rose: 2 "What do you mean..." Iron Rose: 2 "As quartermaster it seems..." 2 "As his own personal..." pamphlet on Iron Rose Flambe: 1 "Let's talk about your vote..." 2 "Do you have a favorite food?" 5 "Keep up the bad work." ring bell 2x swap maps knife on Flair Putra: 2 "How come people don't call you chef?" 4 "Have you tried to get a promotion?" 4 "I'll let you get back to cooking." promotion (R) promotion on papers papers on LeChuck promotion on Putra Putra: 1 "I'd like to try to sway you..." 2 "I don't suppose you know how..." Scorched Alaska (L) smouldering wood on Scorched Alaska book (LL) book on Bob ring bell 1x Murray on cannon fire cannon (R) LeChuck: 2 "I'm going to skewer..." 2 "You're all flavor... " kid: 2 "It's waving goodbye!" (esc) ### Part III climb anchor (LL esc) Gullet: 1 "Did I see you stuff..." 1 "What's in the notebook? ..." 1 "Maybe I could help you..." 1 (or any other) 1 (or any other) 1 (or any other) business card on Gullet get thrown off ship knife on dead squid hand, chicken, bees, just walk over the X Madison crew: 3 "Oh, the trap is for LeChuck! ..." 3 "Maybe I can help." 3 "Why on earth would you..." 2 "He's here on the island." 2 "We could search his ship..." 1 "I'm not sure I was ever..." 2 "I accept." (can go all 2s and one 1(A-button) for auto-text) Madison crew: 1 "I ran into some trouble..." (esc) when leaving monkey head DO-rothy at mountain (R) recite poem (R) Flair: 2 "I'm still feeling the sting..." 2 "It's me, Gullet..." diary (R) Putra: 2 "A nice juicy steak?" 2 "What was that lovely meal..." 2 "You're the best chef..." 1 "LeChuck's favorite food." 1 "Can you make me some..." tentacle on Putra food (L) SOL-omon at beach next to LeShip (R) MI-na at shipwreck (R) RE-gina at monkey head (R) arm bone (R) hover bone over skull, read diary[feb17] (R) *(**DO RE MI SOL** <- order in inventory)* DO DO MI SOL FA FA RE *1 Shiver 1 the seven 1 cutlasses!* *2 Plunder 2 the quivering 2 timbers!* *3 Brandish 3 my blasphemous 3 bilges!* 2 "Okay..." 2 "There's still time to..." 1 "Nnkk!" 1 "Oof, This hurts." 1 "It only hurts when..." 3 "I can't compete with..." 3 "Why not, I'll never..." 3 "We'd better hurry..." 3 "Dibs on the good hammer." manual (LR) manual on shipwreck (esc esc) ### Part IV (esc) when entering Low Street voodoo lady: 2 "Where's The Secret?" 5 "I might have more questions..." Widey: 2 "Secret? What Secret..." 2 "How do I open the safe??" 2 "Where can I find the Golden Keys?" 5 "See you around..." Wally: 1 "Have you got a sea map..." soda (L .. R) board your ship fish shop: 1 "The shop seems nice." ask about flag (LL) fish shop: 1 "Can I join the Chums?" 1 "Please?" specials (R): 1 "Hagfish" soda (R) blowfish (L) -> map to Carla's mansion Carla: 2 "Have you seen the line..." 1 "Can I get in on some of that..." 2 "I want to rebuild local..." -> map to docks IOU on cook cookbook (LR) fishing lure on pirate: 2 2 2 2 -> map to Carla's mansion cookbook on bookshelf borrow Endless Tale (R) -> map to shipyard Stan's picture (R) display case (R) Bella's flag (R) -> map to Terror Island (esc) lamp (R) -> map to LeShip Endless Tale on Bob fishing lure on Bob: 2 " " 2 "Nah, ..." lamp on Flambe demon pepper (R) -> map to scurvy island demon pepper on fish fish on bird guybrush picture (R) picture frame (R) note (L) firewood (LR) Elaine: 1 "I was hoping..." 3 "Can we not..." 1 "How's your project..." 4 "I'm not sure what..." fishing lure on Elaine: 2 " " 2 "Nah, ..." limes (R) -> map to 19th Parallel (hold up-right) judge: 1 "Guybrush Threepwood." check last box and sign it -> map to Brrr Muda Island somebody's picture on picture frame (esc) <- while climbing mountain blowfish (R) Odina: 1 "Your majesty..." 1 "Elaine?" 2 "Is that one of the Golden Keys..." 1 "Naturally, you'll want to..." 1 "Hypothetically, ..." 5 "Does this sort of thing..." 4 "... Seriousness!" (maybe go all 1s and a 5 for auto-text??) Odina: 1 "Is that the best..." joke book (R): 1 "Why do demons..." (esc) when entering mezzanine firewood on fireplace lamp on firewood triangle (L) queen's paper (L) queen's paper (R) scout fish of the day (esc) -> map to Ice Quarry fishing lure on guard: 2 2 2 2 picture on guard Stan: 4 "Some sort of a sales pitch, ..." 1 "I don't think so." 1 "How about I bust you out..." (esc) 4 "I think I'll poke around..." monocles on Stan's shackles -> map to Barebones Island Ned: 3 "Of course not..." 4 "I'm going to explore..." judge's order on Ned financial records (L) -> map to Terror Island silver key (LR) knife on sign silver key on lock save game inside *1 Spring sprung hard* *2 Their last summer night* *3 Those crisp fall* *4 every ocean sunrise* *5 His major voyage* Herman: 5 "I think I'll have a look..." golden key (LL) Herman: 3 "Let's make a deal..." 2 "If you let me have..." 2 "It needs to be key..." 4 "Just give me the key..." 4 "Give! Me! That! Key!" -> map to Melee Island (esc) when reaching the island serial # on Locke Smith fishing lure on Locke Smith: 2 2 2 2 Locke Smith: 3 "Would your mother perhaps..." 3 "Have you heard of..." 3 "I will pay you any amount..." 5 "I think I'll browse..." buy fish (L on fish) fishing lure on anyone: 2 2 2 2 2 flag (L) -> map to Brr Muda Island (around left side of Melee) fish on bucket demon pepper on bucket triangle (L) fish on plate ceremony: 1 "Should I sit on the throne..." 1 "Sure." 1 "Of course." 3 "Okay, I guess so." 1 "No problem." 1 "I've decided to reshape..." (esc) when leaving rummage Ned's satchel (RR) probate order on judge license on picture frame records on judge: 4 "Counsel for the..." license on judge: 3 "I do." (..esc) -> map to Ice Quarry sentence on Stan shackle key on Stan's shackles Stan: 2 "Death globes!" 2 "Find The Secret..." 2 "Amazing strength?" 2 "Run the plank!" (esc) pamphlet (R) -> map to LeShip chicken feed (LR) feed on chicken leave & come back golden key (L) -> map to quarantine ship 2 "Permission to come aboard." 4 "I have some exciting..." flag (R) combine flags -> map to Bella's wreck (esc) on arrival anchor (R) anchor (L) blowfish (R) golden key (R) -> map (can open map underwater, if have all keys) (esc) five keys on safe 2 "This is not a problem..." LeChuck: 2 "A hundred!" (esc) ### Part V Elaine: 2 "Of course..." 2 "The crown was flimsy..." 3 "I was solving puzzles!" 3 "I used a pseudonym..." 3 "I would have notified..." 5 "I have no idea." Elaine: 1 "I remember them..." Flambe: 3 (or 2) coins can be anywhere on the first two rings knife on middle monkey mug on middle monkey mug on right monkey mug on middle monkey mug on left monkey inner wheel faces bottom-left outer wheel faces bottom (esc) Stan ## old thread Spectral β€” 10/31/2022 3:17 AM Btw this is the final version of the autosplitter. I wouldn't bother submitting to Livesplit repo unless there was a consensus on using it. Figured I'd share it here in case anyone wanted to use it in the meanwhile πŸ™‚ https://discord.com/channels/428276474852671508/1021326281410871297/1036463866672074763 mikethev β€” 10/19/2022 4:06 PM when saving in the lava cave before the three rings you do get different results for the coins and puzzle after loading the game, thankfully mikethev β€” 10/18/2022 6:00 PM I can get the galley report to be about half a second faster than the rat. pretty sure you lose more than that from the extra walking around iron rose when you trigger the unanimous quest early. fastest galley report I could come up with: https://discord.com/channels/428276474852671508/1021326281410871297/1031960247591514112 mikethev β€” 10/16/2022 7:56 PM worst rng for the year-wheel is 16*0.7s=11.2s mikethev β€” 10/16/2022 6:20 PM @frozenspade I realized why I had never seen lechuck wasting time with the stress ball for me: his shouting when you enter the room takes long enough to combine the papers and approach him. so you could choose to not skip it... not that it matters much Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 8:04 PM Actually if you make a savefile with 0 as seed value, it will assign a new value on each load Here is the randomizer savefile: https://discord.com/channels/428276474852671508/1021326281410871297/1030905683987673179 Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 7:47 PM Well, it seems like I can change the seed save/load and the map will change Here is the table btw. Just attach to any version of the game and check "Populate Variables" entry https://discord.com/channels/428276474852671508/1021326281410871297/1030900767122526239 It will dump all the variables above. You can change the mop maze one to try different maps, it's a 4-byte seed leolitz β€” 10/15/2022 7:35 PM I don't wanna test it but I wonder if it's possible to get a mop path that is 1 or 2 screens long, and if then you can reach the mop tree before getting thrown out of the forest Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 5:19 PM Is anyone interested in the cheat table for the game? It should work for all versions, maybe the upcoming patches even It just dumps the requested globals, nothing fancy mikethev β€” 10/15/2022 5:42 PM I'm not sure what that means, but it would be immensely useful to have some kind of cheat that allows you to re-shuffle the rng for a savegame. to practice mazes and stuff... Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 5:43 PM so, I was able to add horse armor to my inventory by editing the global before starting a game. I have noticed that mop maze RNG seed is stored in the save. So I will have to look into that once I have finished working on the autosplitter polloAUT β€” 10/15/2022 6:07 PM Smth like getting the fish value? Or elaines pos on scurvy? Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 6:19 PM they are all in the save file, not sure how they translate to in-game positions or fish values but they are set early on pretty sure kc β€” 10/15/2022 6:46 PM I wonder if them being set early on (all at the same time?) means that some can be determined from others polloAUT β€” 10/15/2022 6:53 PM I checked with the saves @Spectral decoded for me and the fish was already set in the prelude And it should be an int from left to right ascending like they are placed in the fishshop Dont know if you need to read the note to have elaine appear on scurvy But if not it would be a timesave if shes in the lower parts mikethev β€” 10/15/2022 7:05 PM pretty sure I tried reading the note and then loading a previous save and she wasn't there I think I even went into the right part of the forest by accident - because it was next to the bird - and she wasn't there FFyte β€” 10/15/2022 7:16 PM Might be similar to the forest, rng is set but until you get the note, it isn't possible to find Elaine Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 7:20 PM It's interesting actually. I can change the value and it will immediately update the note contents but Elaine cannot be found unless I set her in the immediate vicinity of her intended position polloAUT β€” 10/15/2022 7:25 PM Immeadiate means one move in all 8 directions? Spectral β€” 10/15/2022 7:26 PM well, an adjacent one. I don't think every single grove is available but just the ones that lie in the 4 cardinal directions of any 2 landmarks mikethev β€” 10/15/2022 2:21 PM I'm playing the beta of the linux version of the game and negative linespeed works differently 0 doesn't do anything and the only negative number that had an effect out of the ones I tried was -1 no graphical glitches and no crash in part ii either mikethev β€” 10/15/2022 3:45 PM did a full playthrough without issues, except for one: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1624871338?t=0h18m6s when you do the 2 bell rings in part ii, lechuck's blabla is over before you can act mikethev β€” 10/14/2022 8:14 PM @hyperformance 's route for the beginning of part iv on melee is the fastest i've seen so far sea map from Wally --> walk to your ship --> IOU from Carla, warp to ship --> cookbook from docks, warp to ship --> Endless Tale from Carla, warp to ship --> Stan's picture from shipyard --> flag from museum, warp to ship --> fish shop, warp to ship --> off to the next island most of that you can do in any order, just unlock the ship asap and make sure to warp out of the museum I didn't realize you can pick up the flag from the museum before talking to the chums, but it doesn't matter leolitz β€” 10/14/2022 8:20 PM couldn't you warp to fish shop earlier so when you do the switcheroo with the chef you can also talk to the pirate about the fishing story? FFyte β€” 10/14/2022 8:22 PM Can you get the soda and the blowfish in that same context? mikethev β€” 10/14/2022 8:24 PM well, that's the thing. you always have to come to the docks after you've been to the fish shop so, yeah you can do that now or you can do it on the later visit to melee. doesn't really matter leolitz β€” 10/14/2022 8:37 PM oh right, the soda, ok, now I remember what I do, after you get the map from wally you have to walk to the ship so I grab the soda there, then I go to the fishing shop, carla and the rest is basically the same as mike said but I talk to the pirate when I take the book from the chef mikethev β€” 10/14/2022 8:41 PM sea map from Wally --> soda from docks, board your ship --> fish shop, warp to ship --> IOU from Carla, warp to ship --> cookbook + chum talk at docks, warp to ship --> Endless Tale from Carla, warp to ship --> Stan's picture from shipyard --> flag from museum, warp to ship --> off to the next island that looks like an improvement, indeed mikethev β€” 10/14/2022 8:50 PM second visit to melee is just locke smith and receiving the flag if it wasn't for many minutes of cutscenes and mazes, the majority of part iv takes place on melee mikethev β€” 10/14/2022 5:34 PM maybe some mentioned this before, but you can't get through the forest maze without actually having the map. I tried to load a save before getting the map and it just throws you out after the second screen. frozenspade β€” 10/12/2022 11:45 PM Here is THE Reverse Route -Spyglass -LeChuck, Rat -Iron Rose -Box, Window, Gullet -Galley, Putra -Flair -Flambe -Bells -Map -Paperwork -Scorched Alaska -Flambe -Bob -Vote Spectral β€” 10/11/2022 4:35 PM After all that work, I have found out there is a tool that can extract all files in RTMI, including scripts :KEKW: In case anyone is interested: https://github.com/bgbennyboy/Thimbleweed-Park-Explorer mikethev β€” 10/11/2022 3:32 PM I get the impression the direction in which carla and guybrush jump during their duels is random. funny little bit of rng if true mikethev β€” 10/10/2022 11:04 AM I tried to illustrate some of the advantages of playing with a controller: https://imgur.com/a/6Sz1maQ Gameslayer β€” 10/09/2022 12:52 AM GG I notice you run with text only no speech is that faster or just a personal preference polloAUT β€” 10/09/2022 7:47 AM For me it was just preference because i dont want to hear constantly stopped beginnings of dialog But @mikethev meant it would allow skipping dialog smoother yesterday mikethev β€” 10/09/2022 8:28 AM what I meant: sometimes there is still a line of dialog lingering from the last conversation or just some background talking. that can delay the start of the next conversation if you don't dotskip it. without voices those unskipped lines last much shorter, so in theory it can help mitigate mistakes. very small thing though. mikethev β€” 10/08/2022 8:56 PM you can right-click the joke book during the trial of seriousness mikethev β€” 10/08/2022 8:41 PM manual on shipwreck would also be a spot where making the window as wide as possible saves some frames πŸ˜‰ filling out the form is a place where you want the window as tall as possible πŸ€” in part iv getting the flag from the museum after unlocking the ship has to be best. you skip a slow auto-walk out of the museum by leaving via seamap. mikethev β€” 10/08/2022 8:31 PM I'm noticing in those rare cases where you can use esc to skip a cutscene after using an item on something (knife on mop tree, manual on shipwreck), there's no need to walk up to the object. the walking gets skipped as well polloAUT β€” 10/08/2022 8:39 PM i can just think about those two and giving the 'thousand bites' to the vodoolady mikethev β€” 10/08/2022 8:21 PM after greasing the screws, put the grease on the floor then swab that up to grease the window itself one less gullet "cutscene" kc β€” 10/08/2022 8:24 PM one less gullet cutscene, and if you use the buffer as your second/third window grease it means less distance to travel for it mikethev β€” 10/08/2022 4:23 PM there is a file called "Playlog.txt" in the saves folder, which has logs for all my playthroughs up to sep 27. that day patch 1.3.2 was released, so apparently the logging was deactivated with a patch. Entered Museum Picked up eyepatch Entered MeleeOverview Entered MuseumExterior Entered ForestMaze02 Entered ForestMazeA Entered ForestMazeB Entered ForestMazeA Guybrush: Gotcha, you pointy little tracheophyte. Entered ForestMazeB Entered ForestMazeA Entered MopTreeAlive Guybrush: I'll take a shortcut back. Entered MuseumExterior Entered MeleeOverview it's interesting that the forestmaze screens are all called A or B except the first one which is 02 ah, other playthroughs have a maze C as well "Log.txt" also had more content up to that date. there's also maze stuff in there Grish β€” 10/08/2022 8:21 AM I wonder if there's a way to get inside the hall on brrr muda, it would save having to trek all the way up the ice mountain where the queen is... ravage β€” 10/08/2022 3:31 AM in case you haven't tested this yet.... no, you cannot. the theme has to be played after the skulls are on the poles hyperformance β€” 10/07/2022 6:53 PM speaking of micro-optimizations, just hovering the arm bone over the skulls enables "conk" mode, so you don't have to drag it to the first skull from inv polloAUT β€” 10/07/2022 10:15 AM check last box and sign frozenspade β€” 10/07/2022 5:44 PM checking that you have limes does save 1 text box. probably not worth Gameslayer β€” 10/06/2022 8:07 PM Just curious skulls seem to look different in your inventory is it possible to learn there sound from how the skull looks or is how they look rng each run does anyone know polloAUT β€” 10/06/2022 8:15 PM leo and i talked about the order in the inventory last night it seems that if you pick them up in order A B C D, you'll get ADCB in the inventory i had a different pickup order before and could've sworn the order was always the same Spectral β€” 10/06/2022 8:16 PM They always look the same actually I don't know the inventory order but I go by their appearances polloAUT β€” 10/06/2022 8:17 PM if you pick them up according to the route spade and i used, it should be after getting off le ship for the second time: SOL at the beach of le ship; DO at the Mountain; MI at the shipwreck; RE at the monkey head the you get SOL - RE - MI - DO in your inventory put DO on the most right stake, then MI, then SOL and after conking murray put RE on the most left put Skull on stake, conk, put next skull on stake, conk (to be more precise) Gameslayer β€” 10/06/2022 8:48 PM ahh okay so you can lgo off ther apperance good to know Gameslayer β€” 10/06/2022 8:49 PM ohh i see so the same sounding one will always be in the same spot that makes it a bit easier cos i took so long to conk them in inventory to find which one was which thanks appreciate the answersπŸ‘ leolitz β€” 10/06/2022 9:11 PM just made a skull video, as soon as it uploads I'll share it GreenDayFan β€” 10/06/2022 9:13 PM I'm still hitting every skull with the bone in my runs to know the note. leolitz β€” 10/06/2022 9:17 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbXm7Z6iMM0 mikethev β€” 10/04/2022 9:12 PM you always go right on the first screen in the forest maze all my runs and all runs on the hard mode leaderboard go right frozenspade β€” 10/04/2022 5:49 PM @everyone As an official update/ruling, RMB skip is currently allowed. The auto-skip is under investigation, AKA NOT currently allowed. mikethev β€” 10/04/2022 3:48 PM I did confirm now that the murray+elaine cutscene is skippable. there's no reason to pick up murray. Spectral β€” 10/03/2022 11:37 PM Here is my route for Hard any%: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10CH5si5a42XN3Wr30C0pPi0HjObMsgGIhQrQCe4nTQo/edit?usp=sharing I will look into adding the time saves from all the runs earlier today but feel free to add comments if you find faster routes for certain sections πŸ‘ Spectral β€” 10/03/2022 9:54 PM Door puzzle: You get the individual parts from the door frames of the previous three puzzle floors. After that, you can either do mental gymnastics and try to manually figure out the offset each time, or just align the solution as follows: https://discord.com/channels/428276474852671508/1021326281410871297/1026583100882419722 The only remaining step is spamming the numbers until the puzzle is solved kc β€” 10/03/2022 2:20 PM It would be very helpful if we could build a spreadsheet with all the states people get. Doing so led to a breakthrough in MI4 and could help spotting patterns here Spectral β€” 10/03/2022 2:20 PM Maybe we can afford to save scumm for shorter maze path if it's set upon handing the wood shavings to Wally or something kc β€” 10/03/2022 2:28 PM https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eC_Fuz6nGlSAU2WZsP3ZpTpTRAQCb5gm57Q-mMHrleE/edit?usp=sharing Here ya go. Currently just has the forest maze - add in the route you get as exit flower colours in order. Any other RNG feel free to add more sheets. polloAUT β€” 10/03/2022 2:30 PM i tried various saves/reloads before getting the map, all lead to the same map, it seems that this is set at chapter start at least hyperformance β€” 10/02/2022 5:08 PM Terror maze brute force/savescum 1:8 yolo strat: Just randomly go through 3 rooms, then make a save. Go through 2 more rooms (memorize first symbol chosen) and if it's not right, you go back one room and take the other option. If that is also incorrect, load the save and repeat the process with the other room. mikethev β€” 09/27/2022 6:03 PM looks like the dark maze rooms are generated once you enter your first door with a symbol (aka exit the first room of the maze). it doesn't have an effect on the symbol combination itself - that stays the same. as far as I can tell the best you could do with that is savescum a note into the second room? mikethev β€” 09/27/2022 6:10 PM actually it looks more like every room is generated the first time you enter a door. so you could savescum a note into every room. it's probably slower than just running through randomly until you find 5 though... not sure if you know all symbols except the last one, you can also just walk back into room 4 and take the other door... it will be interesting to see what the best strat for that part it kc β€” 09/27/2022 6:18 PM Save upon entering, collect 5 notes, print screen the answer, load, do the answer - this is already faster than intended solution featuring the XYZZY thing mikethev β€” 09/26/2022 5:06 PM the answers for lechuck's catchphrase also seem to be in the same order every time: 1 Shiver 1 the seven 1 cutlasses! 2 Plunder 2 the quivering 2 timbers! 3 Brandish 3 my blasphemous 3 bilges! can check on the notes and just remember something like 221 kc β€” 09/25/2022 6:00 PM really funny and cool strat for the end of the run. You can stab the middle statue, fill the mug, empty it on the right, refill it on the way back, empty it on the left kc β€” 09/24/2022 9:37 AM Skull spots do not change πŸ™‚ mikethev β€” 09/24/2022 9:37 AM SOL-omon next to LeShip DO-rothy at mountain MI-na at shipwreck RE-gina at monkey head